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Response to Obergefell, the United States Supreme Court same sex marriage decision

DivineInstitutionJerald FinneyLie_Truth
Copyright © June 30, 2015

This short article looks at the wrong response to OBERGEFELL ET AL. v. HODGES, DIRECTOR, OHIO DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, ET AL (June 26, 2015), (Click to go directly to PDF of the opinion), the right response to Obergefell, the Bible explanation for the predominance of the wrong response, and God’s assurance to his remnant. Keep in mind that only a man and a woman can marry, no matter what the United States Supreme Court says (See, for explanation, The Sodomite Agenda, Religious Organizations, And Government Tyranny).

6In  Obergefell the Supreme Court, under the leadership of the god of this world (See, Satan orchestrates the world system), has rebelled against the Highest authority, God, in allegedly legalizing marriage between people of the same sex. I repeat, please realize that two people of the same sex cannot marry, no matter what the Supreme Court says. This is explained in other pages and articles on this website (See The Sodomite Agenda, Religious Organizations, And Government Tyranny; see also, for example,  The Hierarchy of Law as it relates to sodomy and sodomite marriage, Laws Protecting New Testament Churches in America: Read Them for Yourself, Preaching on Sodomy in a Hate Crime Atmosphere (June, 2010), and Jerald Finney’s lecture on the Hierarchy of Law.).

8First, the wrong response by believers and churches to Obergefell. Obviously, some incorporated 501c3 churches, their leaders, and their attorneys cannot see the light. They continue in their ignorance of the Bible principles of church, government, and separation of church and state. They do not realize that they have done great damage to the cause of Christ by placing their (notice that I did not say “the Lord’s”) churches under civil government through legal entity status (incorporation including corporation sole, unincorporated association, charitable trust, Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(3) Status, etc.). The two entries below, followed by my responses, exemplify my point. The first entry below is a Facebook entry of Clyde C. Parker, Jr. His advice shows his ignorance. Sadly, his entry has been shared by a lot of people, demonstrating the extent of ignorance about these matters. The second entry is a link to a CLA press release responding to the Obergefell decision advising churches what to do in response to that decision. Both display total lack of spiritual understanding of what should be done.

  1. Clyde C. Parker JrEdited·Everyone please make this post Public and share with everyone. Attention all Fundamental Baptist Churches!!! Because of the recent Supreme Court’s ruling on same sex marriage please immediately update your “By Laws and Articles of Faith/” You can contact  “The Christian Law Association” We’re in the process of doing it NOW and as quick as I can I’ll post a copy of what CLA says about updating.

Updating your “By Laws and Articles of Faith” is not what you should do. Parker is alarmed and has no clue as to the right thing to do. You should get your churches out from under civil government. Your first and preeminent step should be to get rid of corporate, 501c3 status and all legal entity status asap–to understand why, you need to study the Bible doctrines of church, government and separation of church and state. You need to apply those doctrines. To understand how, you need the help of a lawyer who follows Bible precept, not hirelings who forsook Bible principle and got rich by either charging for their services or by taking only donations or gifts rather than “charging for their services.” Many churches and Christians give God’s money to these organizations which then promote and implement Satan’s methods of church organization. This website has all the resources you need to speed up your study.

  1. Press release of the CLA: Biblically Keeping the “Main Thing” the “Main Thing”.

3The above press release proves that the CLA is totally lacking in historical, legal, and scriptural understanding of what to do. If I get time, I may analyze the release in an article. The informed believer should be able to read, analyze, and see the article for what it is. The CLA is part of the reason America and America’s churches are where they are. The CLA has convinced untold numbers of churches to become legal entities under state and federal law and not under God as prescribed in the New Testament and in the First Amendment. CLA and other such “Christian” legal organizations are wolves in sheep’s clothing.

Now to the correct response. My message to churches and believers who wish to please God: start in depth studies of the resources on this website. Can’t you see that your ways have failed? Can’t you see that you have been lied to and that you have followed lies? Open your eyes now and love light rather than darkness, if you wish to glorify God. Repent! Church incorporation and 501(c)(3) status are evil. The resources on this website prove this. The resources on this website give you the truth you need to know in light of the Obergefell decision. Reorganize the church you are a member of, then seek to please God in all matters as you are taught by the word of God, the King James Bible, in all things.

The webpage, The Sodomite Agenda, Religious Organizations, And Government Tyranny, and the resources linked to therein, along with other resources on this website, explain the important biblical doctrines of church, state, and separation of church and state as well as relevant historical facts and legal concepts which guide the Bible believing Christian in the way he, and the church he is a member of, should go – actually, the way he and churches should have gone long ago – in order to glorify God in these times of religious heresy and apostasy, moral awfulness and political and governmental tyranny. Most believers, churches, and “Christian” legal organizations (e.g., the CLA) do not have a clue about God’s mind concerning these matters; instead, they are in panic mode, remain in darkness, and continue in what they perceive to be right and what America and most of America’s churches teach them that they need to do to be good Americans rather than what the Bible teaches that they should do to be good Christians. By the way, the former assures that they will be neither good Christians nor good Americans, and the latter assures that they will be both good Christians and good Americans. Follow the former and hurt individuals, families, churches, and America; follow the latter and help individuals, families, churches, and America.

The Bible explains why the wrong response predominates. John 3:19-21:  “And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.”

The remnant has assurance: “And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life” (1 John 5:19-20).

Jude1.15Man, since the beginning, has always been seduced by Satan. Things will not change until the Lord crushes the world powers, all of which operate under the principles of the god of this world, and establishes his kingdom. The trend of individuals, families, churches, and nations is, in general, always downward and deeper into religious apostasy, moral awfulness, and political tyranny; Obergefell and its progenitors as well as the downward religious, moral and political slide of America again prove this. Sadly, America and the world will continue into greater depths of depravity and rebellion against God’s way. Satan’s ways always offer what seems to man to be the best rewards; while in fact leading to dire consequences. God’s ways, on the other hand actually result in the glory of God, the joy of man, eternal life, and other positive consequences. A remnant has already acted according to Bible principles and guidelines or will modify their conduct and respond correctly to Obergefell by diligent study and modification of their conduct so as to comply with biblical guidelines; but the majority of those who profess to be believers will respond incorrectly, thereby aiding the god of this world in his ultimately unsuccessful schemes.

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Virginia Passes Legislation Forcing Churches to Allow “Transgender” Males into Women’s Bathrooms (04720)(Of course, this will be contested in court. Regardless of the outcome of such contest(s), keep in mind that the established church (incorporated, 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(1)(A) churches have voluntarily given up much of their First Amendment protections and placed themselves under the 14th Amendment for many purposes. Churches who choose to remain under the First Amendment for all purposes are not subject to state legislation. Contact this Churches under Christ Ministry for more information.)

I Pledge Allegiance to God and His Kingdom, Not to America

The Republican Response to Obergefell – Wrong!!!!!! (070715)

The Hierarchy of Law as it relates to sodomy and sodomite marriage (060115)

The Sodomite Agenda, Religious Organizations and Government Tyranny

Will Churches in America Have a Choice about Sodomite Marriage: A short critique of the Article “Christian schools will have no choice about gay marriage: Column” as it relates to churches (052315)

Preaching on Sodomy in a Hate Crime Atmosphere (06_10)

The Hierarchy of Law as it relates to sodomy and sodomite marriage

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Jerald Finney
Copyright June 1, 2015

Marriage is a covenant between a man, a woman, and God.
Marriage is a covenant between a man, a woman, and God.

No matter what the Supreme Court says, two people of the same sex cannot marry – they can only enter into a civil contract between themselves and the state if allowed to do so by man’s law (the same thing people of the same sex do if they get a state marriage license and certificate). Two people of the same sex cannot marry. Marriage is a covenant between a man, a woman, and God.

True believers, as opposed to those religious heretical apostates who claim to be Christians but who support all kinds of sin should keep in mind that all law has a hierarchy (a line of authority). The authority of a given law depends upon its place in the hierarchy. For example, God’s law is the highest law. In America, the next highest law is the United States Constitution. Below that are state, county, and city, constitutions and laws, in that order.

The Supreme Court interprets (and many times misinterprets) the Constitution. The writing is on the wall. It won’t be long before the Supreme Court will declare that the Constitution requires that marriage can be between any two (and maybe more) consenting individuals (regardless of the sexes of those individuals).

But be of good cheer, dear believer. Even should man’s law say that sodomy is not a sin and that sodomite marriage is legitimate, God’s law is still the highest law and God’s law says that sodomy and lesbianism are sexual sins and that marriage is the union of a man and woman under God. God is allowing mankind to do exactly what he told us mankind would do; but the chief means of bringing about the end time one world government was unexpected: the legitimization of a sin which is an abomination to God and an attack on the order of the basic institution ordained by God, the institution of marriage, and the family.

Jude1.15What about appealing the lawfulness of sodomy and sodomite marriage to the Judge of the Universe? The Judge who knows all things, created all things, and ordained all lawful powers does not hold court in a secular manner. He operates outside of time and outside man’s temporal procedures. He weighs all the facts and judges from His throne. In some ways, individuals, families, churches, and nations suffer the natural, God-ordained consequences for violation of His laws. Sometimes, God decides to judge in the here and now through temporal means. The temporal consequences of sexual sins (any sex outside the marriage of a man and woman) have been apparent since time immemorial: STDs, stress, grief, broken marriages (unions of man and woman), broken families, heartache, feelings of guilt for one’s abominable actions, etc. A nation which allows, encourages, and or legalizes sexual sins will be judged temporally.

In addition to temporal judgments, God’s final judgment is reserved for all who refuse to repent and accept Jesus Christ as savior from their sin. The prayer of all true children of God is that all will repent of sin, sexual or otherwise, and trust Jesus Christ to save them from their sin.

The fate of nations who accept gross sexual immorality is made clear in the Bible. For example, Leviticus 18 goes over a litany of sexual sins including adultery and sodomy. Then, Leviticus 18.24-30 records that God commanded the Israelites:

4“Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God.”

Bible study reveals God’s sure judgment of unrepentant men and women who commit vile sexual acts and of nations which embrace such acts.

“For the grace of God that bringeth salvation hath appeared to all men,  Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;  Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. These things speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority. Let no man despise thee” (Titus 2:11-15 ).

Love requires that God’s children “speak, and exhort, and rebuke with all authority” the truths of his word. By obeying God in this matter, individuals and nations are made aware of the truth and given a chance to repent, get right with God, gain God’s blessings, and avoid God’s curses.

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Virginia Passes Legislation Forcing Churches to Allow “Transgender” Males into Women’s Bathrooms (04720)(Of course, this will be contested in court. Regardless of the outcome of such contest(s), keep in mind that the established church (incorporated, 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(1)(A) churches have voluntarily given up much of their First Amendment protections and placed themselves under the 14th Amendment for many purposes. Churches who choose to remain under the First Amendment for all purposes are not subject to state legislation. Contact this Churches under Christ Ministry for more information.)

The Sodomite Agenda, Religious Organizations and Government Tyranny

I Pledge Allegiance to God and His Kingdom, Not to America

The Proper Response by believers and churches to Obergefell, the United States Supreme Court same sex marriage decision (063010)

The Republican Response to Obergefell – Wrong!!!!!! (070715)

Will Churches in America Have a Choice about Sodomite Marriage: A short critique of the Article “Christian schools will have no choice about gay marriage: Column” as it relates to churches (052315)

Preaching on Sodomy in a Hate Crime Atmosphere (06_10)