Denise Porter’s Path to Truth

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September 2015

At one time the roots of my family were American revival, Bible Christian, saved by the Spirit of God faithfully preached & received with repentance & faith. All of them were, of course, immigrants out of the Old World Order Roman Whore-State oppression. But gradually the memory of the reality & truth of all that history & sound Biblical history and doctrine was lost in American optimism and the 1 Thess 5 & 2 Thess 2 one world dream and delusion til at some point my forefathers fell away through the many Luciferian attacks and tempted flesh of hypocrisy & godman humanism. My maternal grandfather was a charming man of Irish descent, and judging by names Roland and Hiram, at least a second generation Freemason –deep enough in to be a Shriner. I know now what that means, and that it is just one of the many manifestations of lying idolatry & godman popery– the ancient fertility-drunkenness-power religion of ‘forces’ and ‘depths of Lucifer’ knowledge-‘science’.-falsely so-called. Impurity, alcohol and pride take their tolls on progeny. My paternal grandfather had a background of Lutheranism and Brethren, & went Pentacostal little god power worshipper, keeping a thin veneer of religion with that ‘more generous’, exciting & permissive ‘Jesus’ some are calling the ‘hippie’ or androgynous ‘Jesus’. Impurity and alcohol and mammon. I was a selfish, defiled, rock and roll, fornicating mess, confused by the hypocrisy and doubletalk, and the spiritual morasse that is public school Temple pretending to be ‘secular’ and ‘neutral’ that also teaches with Freemasonry, Pentecostal idolatry and assorted forms of popery and godman religion that the road to ‘happiness’ and ‘success’ lies through succumbing to lust & covetousness, impurity, and ‘whatever it takes’ pragmatism —with busy-ness, constant entertainment and alcohol or drugs, legal pharma or illegal depending upon the ‘hook’ and ‘path’ to success that our combination of sin & personality and Satan’s deluding temptation took in our lives when we made choices turning from truth & God permitted us to manifest what we truly loved —— to numb conscience & the merciful call of the Holy Spirit of Truth, and to get ‘the feeling’ of justification and ‘power’. Folly. Folly. Folly. But by the grace of God, He has led me through and out—-by a VERY crooked path & low road due to my own sinful choices. But I could never turn entirely from truth & would seek truth & trust unwisely to be deceived by each ‘answer’ in turn til reaching some obvious point of demonism, hypocrisy or deceit that even I could recognize by the John 1 & Romans 2 gift of the light of the true Jesus Christ & conscience, sullied as mine was. He led me in and out of psych-ology sorcery ‘soul’ science and seeking help and guidance of the new priesthood confessional and money-making, controlling mechanism of the new confessional ‘counseling’ of ‘social science’ with its blame-and divide, no responsibility or sin (hence no freedom or victory in Christ possible) dialectic and futility, and in ‘sales’ training in manipulating people illegitimately. He led me through Pentacostalism-Charimaticism, Unitarian witchcraft and purposeful ‘blind’ leap hypocrisy and spell-casting ‘visualizing’ and selective sight and ‘higher power as you perceive he-she-it’ to be and ‘Mother-Father God’. Truth always kept me from utterly ‘letting go’ or taking that blind leap to opening to demon possession –but I saw enough manifestations of the cold cunning of evil when the beautiful masks would slip, or the real meaning of the pretty, soothing, justifying words of what was ‘necessary’ to be ‘successful’ or to ‘progress’ to flee. What can I say of the disillusionment & denominations & varieties even of ‘baptists’ after that? Neoevangelicalism, neo-orthodox, Purpose Driven, CCM, and Reformed Reconstructionism and Political Right, the inter-denominational small groups ‘Bible’ version tango and dialectic game pretending to be ‘Bible Study’ for the purpose of ‘building’ faith while really seeking to pinpoint those holding real faith, then ‘siccing’ the ‘group’ on them: headed by a seme-tery-trained ‘master doubter’ with the ‘deeper knowledge’ purposely steering & promoting doubt & turning souls from trusting God and His word to trusting self and men —-the ‘new’, more genourous ‘luv’ and ‘tolerance’ that is 2 Peter 2 slavery; false ‘Bible’ translation work, impurity, mammon, hypocrisy, sodomy, alchol and drugs, Promise Keepers, false ‘Christian’ curriculums in history and even ‘Creation’ Science a minefield of cults supposedly in ‘common’ faithand standing on the ‘authority of God’s word’ (just not His authoritative word —-the only ‘version’ universally hated in EVERY ‘union’), David Barton’s lying ‘history’ and ‘Wallbuilder’ —-dialectic partition to herd souls back to the tyrannical, impure Roman union with anything but truth, purity and holiness …. In spite of it all, the Lord saved me by the word and the Spirit. Now that I understand more, having senses better exercised, and I am aware just how eaily we can be deluded, and the terrible price to succeeding generations when their elders are confused, deluded or apathetic in these perilous days of see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil ‘positive attraction’ —no contending, no sin confrontation —-now I am passionate to point out the distinctions and points where these ‘isms’ joining in their common antichrist depart from the faith once delivered. ————And though I know we must hold to 2 Timothy 2 in our confrontation, in love and that He saves souls like mine out, as burning brands —-I also know that many of these ‘teachers’ are NOT ignorant of what they are doing, and that they are certainly NOT doing it from alongside on the level ground at the foot of the Cross, or in good faith —-but as the false Romish godmen and the imams, gurus, and sorcerers purposefully misrepresenting themselves AND the faith in order to captivate, exploit & merchandise & lead souls astray for their own gain and glory, nothing to do with Christ or the truth. Their ‘mercy’ is cruel and their ‘truth-telling’ is lying. ——————-I am very thankful for those who stood their ground and contended in the often thankless task of true shepherds and teachers. David Cloud helped me immensely in Bible, King James and church history, heretical movement discernment. Brannon Howse to a certain extent til I realized his Reformed hero worship and man-over-Bible stance that stops him short of confronting certain truths —I suspect purposeful since he doesn’t respond or pursue source citations not in line with his agenda. Lord knows I’ve seen that symptom before! …Dave Hunt was helpful on Calvinism and some other things concerning the cults, and Ed Decker of Saints Alive on Freemasonry & Mormonism. Thomas Ross and Kent Brandenburg’s, James Beller and Kent Hovind’s pre-prison work, and your own witness, with Brother Cooley clarified the last remaining questions & doubts I had of receiving and understanding the much denied Psalm 2 and 82 conspiracy of the ‘gods’ of antichrist. Now I know that I know that I know smile emoticon —and learned the hard 1&2 Corinthians, Hebrews 12 way. And I know my purpose in the body is to confront with the reasons —–the particular reasons—for the faith that I hold, versus the particular deviations and wrestings and techniques of the antichrist claims that seek to insinuate themselves

Moslem question concerning free speech in America with answers from lawyers

Jerald Finney
Copyright © 2015

MohammedCartoonLegal question asked on AVVO on May 12, 2015 from one wanting to know why drawing a cartoon of Mohammed was not the same legally as yelling “Fire” in a crowded theatre with my reply and the reply of some other lawyers with whom I agree.

Asked on AVVO on May 12, 2014 – Dallas, TX

Practice area: Constitutional

See an article on the incident referred to in the above question at: Garland, Texas, Shooting Suspect Linked Himself To ISIS In Tweets (Note. I commend the police for bravely doing their job according to the law. Two of the Muslims, according to the article, “wore body armor. They carried assault rifles. And one had declared loyalty to ISIS.”)

The following was the question:

“Why isn’t the contest to draw Mohammad in Garland Tx recently the same as yelling ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater and not protected a known hate group held a contest to draw a ‘cartoon’ of the Muslim prophet, Mohammad. In doing so, the group knew full well it would likely result in violence against those attending. In fact, only the Muslim protesting the drawing were killed as they approached the facility armed with weapons.”

The question with all answers can be seen at: Avvo/Moslem Question on Free Speech

My reply on May 12, 2014 (I did not address some of the issues raised in the question since I agreed with some other lawyer responses, some of which are below. Rather, I tried to offer some insights into the differences between certain Islamic beliefs and certain principles of freedom found in the United States Constitution.):

9The religion of Islam has entirely different principles about some matters than does the religion which was responsible for giving the United States freedom of religion, speech, assembly, press, and the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. These freedoms are denied in many Muslim countries where Christians and others are persecuted and/or killed. Prior to the adoption of the Constitution and the First Amendment, all these freedoms were denied in most of the American colonies (as they had been in the Old World where Catholicism or some form of Protestantism combined with the state).

These freedoms are secured by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution which says:

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

The history of that amendment makes clear that those who were persecuted (tortured, beheaded, drowned, burnt at the stake, buried alive, imprisoned, property confiscated, banished, tortured, etc.) for their refusal to bow down to the state religion were responsible for the adoption of the First Amendment. You can read that history at:

An abbreviated version is at:

[For an understanding of “Christian” and Secular historical revisionism in America see The Trail of Blood of the Martyrs of Jesus by clicking here.]

Anytime religion and state unite, as proven by history, the result is the labeling of those who do not support and embrace the state/religion and “heretics” and their persecution and elimination. At least 50 million of such so-called “heretics” were murdered by the combination of church and state during the reign of Catholicism, and then by Protestant church state unions which adopted the church/state theology of the “mother” church (harlot). Those “heretics” believed in freedom of religion, freedom of conscience, and the other freedoms in the First Amendment. Their beliefs were based upon a literal interpretation of the Bible, not on the “spiritual” interpretations of the Catholic church which basically held that the Bible was open to interpretation by certain “spiritual” people (such as Origin, Augustine, and Thomas Aquinas). Those interpreters paganized and spiritualized, according to their preferences, the great truths of the Bible.

As to the speech issue you mention, the teachings of Islam are fundamentally different from those of those Christian “heretics” who stood against the union of church and state and for freedom of speech, press, religion, and assembly and which resulted in the freedoms in the First Amendment. Many of the Moslems who live in America have brought with them their Muslim beliefs and wish those beliefs to be applied in America. In order for that to happen, American law would have to be fundamentally rewritten.

A cross in a jar of urine is protected speech in America. Other odious depictions of Christ in movies, paintings, signs, etc. are common in America. As a believer, I detest those things, but I also believe in everyone’s right to the freedoms in the First Amendment. I don’t believe in killing anyone for their religious beliefs (as long as those beliefs do not result in murder, stealing, or some other crimes against one’s fellow man). The law protects, and rightfully so, those who express and practice their religious beliefs – even those who criticize other religions, religious leaders, etc.

This answer is not intended as and should not be relied upon as legal advice. Professional legal advice requires…

A good article on Muslim immigration and its effects is: Concerns Of Muslim Immigration Surge Into Western World Come Into Focus (050715)

Reply of Cameron Huey Workers’ Compensation Lawyer – Sacramento, CA:

Answered May 14, 2014. Contrary to popular belief, yelling “fire” in a theater is not the most recent case law on clear and present danger. Schenck v. United States has been superceded by Brandenburg v. Ohio. Hate speech has also been approved as protected by the First Amendment (Virginia v. Black upheld a cross-burning). Hate speech is now akin to viewpoint discrimination. If the “hate group” was prohibited from having a drawing contest of Muhammed, then THEY would sue for violation of free speech rights.

The Constitution doesn’t protect against people being upset. The Constitution protects the speaker’s rights. Yelling “fire” causes panic to a reasonable person. A reasonable person would not have some impulse to hurt or kill other people because their religion/beliefs/opinions are threatened. The fact that they approached the facility armed with weapons WITH THE INTENT of committing a crime against someone who was expressing free speech shows they were in the wrong.

If you want this liberal/progressive defense of free speech that Pamela Gellar and company were engaging in, I suggest you watch some of the debates between supporters of Islam and with progressive TV host Bill Maher.

This answer is not intended as and should not be relied upon as legal advice. Professional legal advice requires…

Reply of Richard Gould-Saltman Family Law Attorney – Los Angeles, CA

Answered 28 minutes ago. Because it’s not illegal to “yell ‘fire’ in a crowded theater”; it’s “illegal to FALSELY yell ‘Fire!’ in a crowded theater”, which results in innocent people doing perfectly legal and reasonable things, and getting injured as a result.

Mounting an armed attack against someone who makes fun of your religion is, in the United States, neither legal nor reasonable, and isn’t innocent; it’s a crime.

This answer is not intended as and should not be relied upon as legal advice. Professional legal advice requires…

Reply of Isabel Humphrey Appeals Lawyer – Phoenix, AZ

Answered a day ago. I think the big difference is that yelling “fire!” in a crowded theater will lead reasonable people to panic and potentially be injured, whereas drawing Mohammed will lead only criminals to react in a way that will cause injury.

This answer is not intended as and should not be relied upon as legal advice. Professional legal advice requires…

Lawyers answer question about speech in the public forum in America

Jerald Finney
September 19, 2015

Click here to go directly to the AVVO page with the question below and all answers that were submitted.

Speech in the public forum is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
Speech in the public forum is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

This brief article first presents a question by a person who was planning to demonstrate in the public forum in America. The question was asked on AVVO, a website where people can ask legal questions and get online answers from attorneys. Following the question is my answer which the asker names as the best answer. At the end is the link to the AVVO page where one can see the question and answers from various attorneys, including my answer.

The question was:

“I am planning a legal protest. I will be in Grove City, Ohio. I will be in a public area (sidewalk). I would like utilize my rights to the fullest extent of the law and I do not want to go to jail. Other than my 1st amendment right secured by the United States Constitution, what other laws protect me? Can you please cite case law or ORC sections? Do I need to procure a permit? I have a written statement prepared for any police officers I may encounter. It invokes my right to remain silent and refusal to answer verbal questions. Thank you ladies and gentlemen!”

My answer was:

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

“The First Amendment protects speech in the public forum. The First Amendment is the highest man-made law in America and only God’s law is higher. All lower laws (State, county, and city) are subject to the First Amendment. As you will see on some of the resources linked to below, even state constitutions, county and city ordinances usually reflect First Amendment rights.

“Speech includes the spoken word and signs you carry. Depending upon the noise ordinance of the city, you may not be allowed to use amplification (such as a megaphone).

“You cannot violate legitimate laws such as laws obstructing a highway, sidewalk or passageway, commit criminal trespass, etc., but the police may not use those laws to stop your legitimate speech. Some of the links below are to resources which tell you exactly what the Supreme Court has said about these matters.

“Police will sometimes falsely arrest people. It is a good idea to have someone videotape all your activity from beginning to end, so you will have proof of the facts. Police are trained to “constructively bend the truth” (lie). so as to cover their own illegal activities. For more on this, see the following resources:

“ (go there and click link). This goes over the hierarchy of law on this matter, including relevant Supreme Court caselaw.

“ (The links to my brief in the Steve Drake case will be very helpful.)

“ (real life run ins with the law by those speaking in the public forum.)

“ (More helpful information.)

“I send you the above links because I don’t have room in this limited space to appraise you of your rights, how to deal with the police, etc. The resources will be very helpful to you. I have settled many problems where police try to interfere with or prevent speech in the public forum.

“It is best to alert the appropriate law enforcement agencies, the city attorney, and maybe even the mayor and city council members before the date of your speech. E-mail them and/or send certified letters RRR. Call them beforehand. Let them know that you will be speaking in the forum and that your speech is protected. Let them know that should the police interfere with your speech, falsely arrest you, etc. that the individual police person(s) who violate your rights, the police department, the chief of police, the mayor, the city council members and the city can be sued for damages.

“Some cities and their police and other peace officers know that speech in the public forum is protected in America. Others don’t and they have to be educated.”

Click here to go directly to the AVVO page with the above question and all answers that were submitted.

Denise Porter Responds

September 18, 2015

Denise Porter is a believer who, like myself, followed Christian historical revisionism, in hopes of making her family better and bringing America “back under God.” When new light came, when the lies she was following came under the light of truth, she loved the light. She – unlike those who doeth evil and hateth the light, did truth and came to the light, that her deeds might be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. She replied to a post I put on Facebook. Her comment was:



My post was:


Can a church force a homosexual to turn straight to stay in the church?

Jerald Finney
Copyright © September 9, 2015

This article presents a question on AVVO, a legal website, asked by person who practices homosexual conduct, and my answer. On September 14, 2014, I was notified that the question asker picked mine as the best answer. The following, before the article, is a copy of that notification:


The following question was asked on AVVO, a legal website on 090815:

A church which is a legal entity (e.g. incorporated 501c3 church) grieves our Lord and is partially, at the least, under a head other than the Lord Jesus Christ.
A church which is a legal entity (e.g. incorporated 501c3 church) grieves our Lord and is partially, at the least, under a head other than the Lord Jesus Christ.

I am homosexual and my new pastor says that I have to turn straight to stay in my church. Can force me to it to be able to stay?

“I have gone to the same church for 11 years. I have never had a problem in my church even if I am openly gay and dress quite feminine. We have a new pastor since a year and he has tried to talk me into becoming straight since day one. Clearly, he is quite homophobic…. I have been able to laugh about if until now, but he is now trying to put pressure on my by the other pastors.

“They have never had a problem with me before. Suddenly they want me to dress differently and “become straight”.

“I am feeling harassed by my pastor and he even talked about me in church yesterday. It was clearly about me and I could feel the hostility.

“What can I do? Can I even try to do something legal against my pastor or is he protected by the law since he is God’s voice?”

My answer  to the above question was as follows:

“Yours is not like the case in which the baker refused to do a wedding cake for homosexuals. That was a business. Your dispute is with a church. The First Amendment religion clause covers establishment of religion and free exercise of religion. The First Amendment says:

4“‘Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.’

“One can read the history of the First Amendment at:….

“An abbreviated version of that history is at:….

For the history incorporated with an examination of both Christian and Secular Historical revisionism of the history of the First Amendment see 

“I cannot fully answer your question in this forum, but I will give you an answer in a nutshell with additional resources for more detailed study.

“If your church is totally under the First Amendment (has not become a legal entity by incorporating, getting Internal Revenue Code Section 501c3 or Section 508 status, etc.), you have no legal recourse whatsoever against your church.

9“On the other hand, should your church be a legal entity, she has voluntarily taken herself, for many purposes, out from under First Amendment protections. For example, your church may be held in violation of the rule which says that the 501c3 religious organization shall not violate fundamental public policy. This rule was set in place by the IRS and upheld by the United States Supreme Court as to a religious organization – a religious school named Bob Jones University. The fundamental public policy rule has not yet been enforced against a church. What the court would do in the church religious organization setting is not certain: the result would be determined by the makeup of court, ultimately, the Supreme Court.

I believe that the court should enforce the “against public policy” exception as to any religious organization. After all, if a church has voluntarily agreed to 501c3 status, she has agreed -as do religious schools, charitable trusts, Planned Parenthood, the Church of Wicca, and other organizations – to abide by the rules that go along with the status. The religious organization is getting benefits, so she should be willing to abide by the give and take contract she eagerly sought. There are many arguments one can make to support upholding the rules for all 501c3 organizations, not just select organizations.

Click the above to go to online version of God Betrayed.
Click the above to go to online version of God Betrayed.

“I don’t have the room to cover all the arguments, the law, etc. in this short space. This is all covered in much detail on the website, A link to the PDF of the comprehensive book on these matters is at…. One can go to the index and look up Bob Jones University, and many other specific issues, or the Table of Contents to get general subjects such as incorporation, 501c3, etc. The online version has updates and is at:…. The online version does not have an index.

“To look at church legal entity status one can go online to….

Again, “the courts have not yet addressed the question of violation of fundamental public policy in the church (religious organization) context. As I said above, the courts have no jurisdiction over the purely spiritual church (the non-legal entity) church; such a church in America may still operate according to the principles in the Bible without civil government jurisdiction and persecution.

“You will need someone to help you who is well-versed in the law should you desire to proceed legally. The res
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To go the the webpage of the above question with answers from other attorneys, click here.

Virginia Passes Legislation Forcing Churches to Allow “Transgender” Males into Women’s Bathrooms (040720)(Of course, this will be contested in court. Regardless of the outcome of such contest(s), keep in mind that the established church (incorporated, 501(c)(3) or 501(c)(1)(A) churches have voluntarily given up much of their First Amendment protections and placed themselves under the 14th Amendment for many purposes. Churches who choose to remain under the First Amendment for all purposes are not subject to state legislation. Contact this Churches under Christ Ministry for more information.)